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09/06/2022 01:00 PM House LEGISLATIVE BUDGET & AUDIT


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01:02:57 PM Start
01:03:46 PM Revised Program Legislative (rpl)
01:07:14 PM Special Audit Request
01:19:26 PM Executive Session
02:49:13 PM State Medical Board (sunset)
02:52:02 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
Revised Program Legislative (RPL)
- #11-2023-035; Pink Salmon Disaster - 2016 Gulf
of Alaska; Statutory Designated Program Receipts
(1108) Capital; $1,000,000
Special Audit Request
- Office of Information Technology (OIT)
Executive Session
- Preliminary Audit Release
State Medical Board (Sunset)
- Final Audit Release
-- FY 21 Single Audit
-- Alaska CARES Act Grants (Special)
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             LEGISLATIVE BUDGET AND AUDIT COMMITTEE                                                                           
                       September 6, 2022                                                                                        
                           1:02 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Natasha von Imhof, Chair                                                                                                
Representative Chris Tuck, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
Senator Lora Reinbold                                                                                                           
Representative Ivy Spohnholz                                                                                                    
Representative James Kaufman                                                                                                    
Representative Dan Ortiz (alternate)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                      
Senator Click Bishop (alternate)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative Sara Hannan                                                                                                      
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REVISED PROGRAM LEGISLATIVE (RPL)                                                                                               
SPECIAL AUDIT REQUEST                                                                                                           
EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                                               
STATE MEDICAL BOARD (SUNSET)                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ALEXEI PAINTER, Director                                                                                                        
Legislative Finance Division                                                                                                    
Legislative Agencies and Offices                                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented the RPL and answered questions.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
KRIS CURTIS, Legislative Auditor                                                                                                
Legislative Audit Division                                                                                                      
Legislative Agencies and Offices                                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Answered questions  during the  hearing on                                                             
the Special Audit Request.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:02:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR NATASHA VON  IMHOF called the Legislative  Budget and Audit                                                             
Committee  meeting   to  order   at  1:02   p.m.  Representatives                                                               
Spohnholz,  Kaufman,   Ortiz  (Alternate;   via  teleconference),                                                               
Josephson,  and   Tuck  and  Senators  Reinbold,   Micciche  (via                                                               
teleconference),  and  von Imhof  were  present  at the  call  to                                                               
order.   Also  present  were Representative  Edgmon and  Senators                                                               
Kiehl and Wilson (via teleconference.)                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
^Revised Program Legislative (RPL)                                                                                              
               Revised Program Legislative (RPL)                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:03:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VON IMHOF announced that  the first order of business would                                                               
be Revised Program, Legislative (RPL).                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:04:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALEXEI   PAINTER,   Director,   Legislative   Finance   Division,                                                               
Legislative  Agencies and  Offices,  introduced RPL  11-2023-035;                                                               
Pink Salmon Disaster - 2016  Gulf of Alaska; Statutory Designated                                                               
Program Receipts (1108) Capital; $1,000,000.   He stated that the                                                               
RPL, if approved, would increase  the appropriation that had been                                                               
established in fiscal  year 2020 (FY 20).  He  explained that the                                                               
original capital budget  had been in the amount  of $3.63 million                                                               
and of which some unspent  funds had been reallocated to research                                                               
projects and  would include the  requested $1 million.   He noted                                                               
that  funds had  originated from  statutory designated  funds and                                                               
had  passed through  the National  Marine  Fisheries Service  for                                                               
distribution by  the Pacific  States Marine  Fisheries Commission                                                               
and could  appear to be  federal funds.   He added that  no match                                                               
requirement  exists  for  the  proposed  funding  and  activities                                                               
should reach completion by the end of the year.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:06:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK  moved that the Legislative  Budget and Audit                                                               
Committee approve the following RPL:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
       #11-2023-035; Pink Salmon Disaster - 2016 Gulf of                                                                        
      Alaska; Statutory Designated Program Receipts (1108)                                                                      
     Capital; $1,000,000                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, the RPL was approved.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^Special Audit Request                                                                                                          
                     -Special Audit Request                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:07:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VON IMHOF  announced that the next order  of business would                                                               
be the  Special Audit Request.   She reminded the  committee that                                                               
it had  authorized a  preliminary audit review  of the  Office of                                                               
Information Technology (OIT).                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:07:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ  said  that  communications  had  taken                                                               
place  with OIT  leadership, and  that additional  review of  the                                                               
state's security was warranted.   She referred to the Legislative                                                               
Budget  and  Audit  Committee's November  21,  2021  meeting  and                                                               
suggested  that the  committee put  forth a  motion with  a clear                                                               
statement  of  intent  to  conduct  a full  audit,  so  that  the                                                               
auditors  have the  necessary resources  with  which to  proceed.                                                               
She explained  that OIT had  some successful execution  of large-                                                               
scale capital projects and that a  full review would be timely in                                                               
approximately  the next  two  years.   She  recommended that  the                                                               
committee  authorize a  full  security audit  as  requested in  a                                                               
memorandum that had been submitted to the chair's office.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:10:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KRIS  CURTIS, Legislative  Auditor,  Legislative Audit  Division,                                                               
Legislative Agencies  and Offices, stated that  the disclosure to                                                               
the agency and authorization for  a full audit would be necessary                                                               
to ensure  that the  auditors have  full access  to the  areas of                                                               
review.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN asked  for an  explanation of  what would                                                               
constitute a cost of $1 million to conduct the audit.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CURTIS cautioned  that  the  estimate had  been  made [as  a                                                               
placeholder  amount] and  that actual  costs would  be determined                                                               
after development  of the scope  and identification  of available                                                               
resources.   She added that  the expertise required to  conduct a                                                               
security review  would result  in a  procurement and  that supply                                                               
and demand of such expertise would drive cost.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN asked  whether  the  need for  additional                                                               
resources would  be needed  to effectively  develop the  scope of                                                               
the procurement.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS  answered that  the agency would  be asked  to provide                                                               
information  and documentation  and  the  auditors would  proceed                                                               
according to the plan in the audit request.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR REINBOLD stated  that she had become  aware of complaints                                                               
regarding the  vulnerability of the  state's data security.   She                                                               
encouraged the  protection of citizen  privacy in the  context of                                                               
the  audit.   She  asked  what  timeframe  would be  required  to                                                               
complete the audit.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS  estimated that  the audit  would be  completed within                                                               
approximately  two  years  and   that  factors  such  as  federal                                                               
funding, contractor  availability, and available  resources would                                                               
have an impact on the timeline.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VON IMHOF  asked for ongoing updates at  future meetings on                                                               
the progress of the audit.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CURTIS  estimated  that  [a   meaningful  update]  would  be                                                               
available to the committee in early spring [2023].                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:16:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK  moved that the Legislative  Budget and Audit                                                               
Committee approve  the Special  Audit Request  for the  Office of                                                               
Information Technology as presented.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:16:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:16 to 1:18 p.m.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:18:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK  moved that the Legislative  Budget and Audit                                                               
Committee  approve the  special audit  request of  the Office  of                                                               
Information Technology as presented,  with the understanding that                                                               
this  is  a  full  audit  and  not a  review.    There  being  no                                                               
objection, the motion was approved.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
^Executive Session                                                                                                              
                       Executive Session                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:19:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VON IMHOF announced that  the final order of business would                                                               
be  Executive  Session   for  the  purpose  of   the  review  and                                                               
consideration  of  the preliminary  audit  of  the State  Medical                                                               
Board (Sunset), the  final FY 21 Statewide Single  Audit, and the                                                               
Alaska CARES Act Special Audit.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK  moved that the Legislative  Budget and Audit                                                               
Committee go  into Executive Session under  Uniform Rule 22(b)(3)                                                               
for the  discussion of matters that  may, by law, be  required to                                                               
be confidential.   He asked that the following  persons remain in                                                               
the room or  online: the legislative auditor  and necessary staff                                                               
for the auditor, any legislators  not on the committee, and staff                                                               
for  legislators who  are  members of  the  committee, and  House                                                               
Finance Committee staff.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:20:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee  took an  at-ease from  1:20 to  2:48 p.m.  for the                                                               
purpose of executive session.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:48:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VON   IMHOF  called  the  Legislative   Budget  and  Audit                                                               
Committee meeting  back to  order at  2:48 p.m.   Representatives                                                               
Spohnholz,  Kaufman, and  Ortiz  (alternate, via  teleconference)                                                               
and  Senators Reinbold  and von  Imhof were  present at  the call                                                               
back  to order.   Also  present were  Representatives Hannan  and                                                               
Edgmon (via  teleconference), and Senators Wilson,  Micciche, and                                                               
Kiehl (via teleconference).                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^State Medical Board (Sunset)                                                                                                   
                  State Medical Board (Sunset)                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:49:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN  moved  that  the  following  Preliminary                                                               
Audit  be released  to  the agencies  for  their formal  comment:                                                               
State  Medical  Board Sunset.    There  being no  objection,  the                                                               
motion passed.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:49:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN  moved to  release  the  FY 21  Statewide                                                               
Single Audit  and the  Alaska CARES Act  Grants Special  Audit as                                                               
final audit reports.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  REINBOLD objected  and  expressed her  gratitude to  the                                                               
committee and  to the auditors.   She expressed her  concern that                                                               
accountability  for individuals  responsible  for audit  findings                                                               
may be lacking.  She removed her objection.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VON  IMHOF sought  any further  objection and,  there being                                                               
none, the motion passed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:50:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN stated  that  his office  had prepared  a                                                               
top-10 audit  findings process section of  language for inclusion                                                               
in  the  Legislative Budget  and  Audit  handbook and  encouraged                                                               
feedback from the committee.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:52:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There  being  no  further  business  before  the  committee,  the                                                               
Legislative Budget  and Audit Committee meeting  was adjourned at                                                               
2:52 p.m.                                                                                                                       

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
9.06.22 LBA RPL Packet.pdf JBUD 9/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
RPL 9.6.22
renaming LBA IT Security Audit Request 7.19.22.pdf JBUD 9/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
OIT Audit
30105-LBA-IT-Security-Request-11.1.21.pdf JBUD 9/6/2022 1:00:00 PM
OIT Review